Human advancement.

[General Brave]

I'm trying to figure out how far the humans will be in, I'm guessing not the same level of Dwar technology, props Renaissance or semi Victorian.

Air balloon.
http://www.androidutils.com/forum/viewt ... 77e#p65272
Ornithopter

[makazuwr32]

yes, like that without gunpowder but with addition of magic.
as for me humans must have some of best casters in game.

[General Brave]

We already got the hot air balloon idea.
Yes we can have weapons powered by Magic.

[makazuwr32]

we already have battlemage.
and some of my suggestions (arcane mage, archmage, elementalist) are pretty powerful caster suggestions.

[General Brave]

link them here.

[getfreur]

I think they should have the same style as the humans in Warcraft, a medieval vibe with magic.

[makazuwr32]

Archmage - unique unit.
Elementalist
Arcane wizard

I think they should have the same style as the humans in Warcraft, a medieval vibe with magic.

partially agree, exept they can still have their ornithopters and balloons.

[General Brave]

They already do, except with the more magical part.

[General Brave]

They need something a bit more less magical or at least more advance.

[getfreur]

I would say for advanced things to put in dwarfs, humans should stay medieval or pre renascence.

[makazuwr32]

humans? In which way?
gunpowder? please stick gunpowder to dwarves only.
more mechanical flying? nono they already will have balloon and rebalanced ornithopter along with lots of living units.
more siege? well here can we expand - heavy catapults, ballistas.
ships - i have in mind some ideas for 'em but that will be later because i am not sure how they will affect gameplay.

[General Brave]

Like some of that, we definitely need more Siege weaponry.

[makazuwr32]

Heavy catapults and ballistas from aos will nt hurt for humans i must say.
also i want to see for humans laborers as cheaper workers as they are in aos.

[General Brave]

Sounds easy to import.

[General Brave]

We should add a duelist/fencer to the human.

[makazuwr32]

Dual swordman?
he is ingame. just can't be trained.

[General Brave]

Then we should add it in, perhaps bonus against other swordman.

[getfreur]

If we need more units just make then with armor, like guardsman, footman, man at arm's, Sergeant, militia, dragon riders, gopher riders, pikeman that can have a placed stacking to make more damage against Cavalry if attacks, mages that can invoke spirits, traps or even mega units like a mobile castle.

[General Brave]

I like those idea, what type of mobile Castle?

[makazuwr32]

mobile castle is too much for humans.
Leave it for dwarves and their skybreaker.

[General Brave]

How about a movable camp.

[makazuwr32]

Hm. mobile barracks/archery range will fit good for humans.
but it must become stationary before it will be able to train units.

[General Brave]

All right, It should be longer to build.

[makazuwr32]

maybe count as mega building, more health, trains units from both barracks and archery range but has no upgrades from 'em.

[General Brave]

Okay then, what should it be called.

[makazuwr32]

idk... maybe as you said - training camp?

[General Brave]

Training camp it is, unless someone else comes up with a better name.
I'm guessing we should use a wagon to be the starting base.

[General Brave]

Anything else.

[Lynx Shafir]

Dualist needs better stats.
(such unit whit some dodge - a fantasy dueler not a non armored soldiers who dies in the second attack cos 2 Attak and counter dmg .)
Also needs improvement the warrior, or don't call it warrior if he dies in his first fight.

We will have healer-supporter expansion (cleric, paladin, sacred tracker ) hopefully

If improve siege need siege workshop - after done we can "invent"-for ourself some siege techs that are more fantasy than medieval...

So as I hear we get at least elefant and fire archers.


1)We need good medium cost units (4-6important )and not imperial - like (coz they are only heavy armored soldiers)

Not all better units to be 8 cost.

Something whit special skills.
(If the barbarian would be balanced to 6 turn cost would be better.)
Werewolf and valkiry is almost ready

So any ideas for such units.?

2)Better defence
3)someting in water.
Improve ship n dock, also may living force
4)Would be good some New default units -
Hunter -
Rouge , tief - for scouting(transform stealth mode) , storling techs,
Disarming traps(ranged trap detect) - great if add traps - cost 4*
And Attak like - knife throwing)
Also a hunter - summon hawk(scout bird)
2cost -

5)UPGRADE SECTION -
We could merge some tech slots, blacksmith and put
Units there (elefant, siege workshop and such)
Like did in an update for orcs.
This is personal opinion but they are more basic and better to be at first page.

[General Brave]

Good ideas but I don't know what are you talking about the money courier?