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War Lord

Post by Tankhead » Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:23 am

Ruler of the underground for dwarves

- Unique unit
- stats were base off from human king

WarLord
Cost - 10
Hp - 100
Atk - 25
Spd - 3
Armor - 5
Pierce Armor - 5
Sight - 4
Spell resistance - 100%
Abilities:
Strengthen Aura ( passive )
Self Strengthen ( dwarven monk one )
Lightning weapon
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Re: War Lord

Post by Savra » Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:24 am

Umm, Tank Head the dwarves have quit a few leader suggestions like the thane and the such.

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Re: War Lord

Post by makazuwr32 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:26 am

For now stop suggesting unique/legendary units, please.

I like this idea though. It can be reimagined into sort of orc leader for dwarves.

Savra. Thane and Jarl of frostfire clan are just much more powerful infantries with either fire or chill weapon.
They are not rulers/leaders.
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Re: War Lord

Post by Tankhead » Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:28 am

Well you never know if they will get accepted or not just like mine
Im just suggesting my version on the dwarf leader


And if you dont like it as a unique I could just Redo stats to make it similar to orcish leader
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Re: War Lord

Post by makazuwr32 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:29 am

Unique units for now won't be accepted at all.
Alex don't want them in normal gameplay.
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Re: War Lord

Post by Savra » Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:31 am

Orcs rule through clans, dwarves are like humans in hirachy. He's fine as a Unique.

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Re: War Lord

Post by makazuwr32 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:33 am

Savra wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:31 am
Orcs rule through clans, dwarves are like humans in hirachy. He's fine as a Unique.
makazuwr32 wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:29 am
Unique units for now won't be accepted at all.
Alex don't want them in normal gameplay.
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Re: War Lord

Post by Tankhead » Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:38 am

Again I can just redo stats ( will be similar to orcish leader and will not be unique )
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Re: War Lord

Post by makazuwr32 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:42 am

I think it must have stats more similar to mithril guard (but with same 6 turn cost) and group defend aura that adds +1 to melee armor.
It will fit better for dwarves.

Maybe like these ones:
Cost - 6 turns, trainable at Barracks and Kingdom under mountain.
Hp - 44
Attack - 19
Range - 1
Armor - 4/4
Speed - 3
Sight - 5
Spell resist - 50%
Standart bonus to buildings.
Abilities:
Aura: Group defend 1: +1 to melee armor for all units in range 4.

Ofc they are not final, just my suggestion.
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Re: War Lord

Post by Tankhead » Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:51 am

Since im sure this unit can be uograded

1.Does this unit spell resistance go up as it gets upgraded?

2. Why not add armor +1/1?

3. Why base it off of mithril guard?
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Re: War Lord

Post by Tankhead » Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:54 am

Also playing a leader role his Spell resistance ( base ) should be 50% or higher
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Re: War Lord

Post by makazuwr32 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:03 am

1. It can be upgraded by blacksmith. Only. So stats are almost final. I want to lower bonuses from upgrading bear riders later (but increase base stats) and remove at all bonus armor for them at all. 11/11 (with all blacksmith upgrades and strengthen spell) armor for 4 turn cavalry is too much
2. There must be difference between melee and piercing armor for dwarves still and i want to be p.armor as their a-bit-weaker-than-normal-armor spot.
3. Orc king is orc. Mithril guard is dwarf. It is a bit too much to base unit stats on similar unit from other race.
Ideas though can be used from other races.
4. About spell resist it is discussable. I need to look what spell resist have mithrils.
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Re: War Lord

Post by Tankhead » Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:21 am

makazuwr32 wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:03 am
1. It can be upgraded by blacksmith. Only. So stats are almost final. I want to lower bonuses from upgrading bear riders later (but increase base stats) and remove at all bonus armor for them at all. 11/11 (with all blacksmith upgrades and strengthen spell) armor for 4 turn cavalry is too much
2. There must be difference between melee and piercing armor for dwarves still and i want to be p.armor as their a-bit-weaker-than-normal-armor spot.
3. Orc king is orc. Mithril guard is dwarf. It is a bit too much to base unit stats on similar unit from other race.
Ideas though can be used from other races.
4. About spell resist it is discussable. I need to look what spell resist have mithrils.
Ah alright.
And even ( IF ) mithril guard doesn't have 50% spell R I think this unit should have it anyways
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Re: War Lord

Post by makazuwr32 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:22 am

If mithrils have less than 30% than 40% is fine.
Otherwise i agree on rising it to 50%.
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Re: War Lord

Post by Tankhead » Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:22 pm

They have 50% spell Resistance so I guess 50% spell resistance it is
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Re: War Lord

Post by makazuwr32 » Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:32 pm

So be it.
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Re: War Lord

Post by General Brave » Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:49 pm

A warlord?
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Re: War Lord

Post by Tankhead » Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:50 pm

What?
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Re: War Lord

Post by Gral.Sturnn » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:45 pm

dwarf king sounds better in all cases dwarf general warlord sounds more tribal
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Re: Dwarf Leader

Post by Tankhead » Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:23 pm

Can't be a dwarf king since he's not gonna be a ruler anymore

Just a good leader that helps boost allies morale
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Re: Dwarf Leader

Post by makazuwr32 » Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:38 am

I like more "warlord" name.
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Re: Dwarf Leader

Post by Gral.Sturnn » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:24 pm

makazuwr32 wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:38 am
I like more "warlord" name.
Well idk it sounds more like a name for orcs or a human bandit, it needs to sound a but more organised since dwarves are super disciplined in that aspect
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Re: War Lord

Post by Savra » Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:44 pm

Look into Viking style ones. Dwarves were originally made by them and seem to be modeled like them, with the exeption of their navy.

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Re: War Lord

Post by Savra » Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:48 pm

Drott is the word for warlord in Viking culture.
Or just call him a Jarl.

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Re: War Lord

Post by Midonik » Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:01 pm

Jarl sounds quite good.
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Re: War Lord

Post by Tankhead » Sat Oct 06, 2018 5:52 am

Weird name
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Re: War Lord

Post by Tankhead » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:29 pm

@Alexander82
Here's one
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Re: War Lord

Post by Tankhead » Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:47 pm

Its been awhile stats need rethought about
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