No vanishing for orc dragons - IMPLEMENTED

[Alexander82]

I think that the orc dragon shouldn't have vanishing.
It is the one with the higher cost (you sacrifice useful units) and the only one with vanishing.
It is mostly useless and as it is it has no point.

I think we might make him without vanishing and mske its attack, hp and armors stats the combined stats of the units sacrificed (a weak dragon if you sacrifice weak units, a stronger one with better units)

[Alpha]

I agree with Alexander, With vanishing on it is basically a useless unit.

[Stratego (dev)]

ok drop specific stat change suggestions.

[Alexander82]

Is it possible the combined stats trick?

[Stratego (dev)]

not yet.
so on first use existing possibliities.

[Alexander82]

In that case i would make those stats:

HP: combined hp of sacrificed units
Attack: Combined attack of the sacrificed units/3 round up
Armor: Combined armor of the sacrificed units/ 2 round up
Pierce: Combined pierce of the sacrifice units/2 round up
Speed: average of sacrificed units round up +1 (flying)
Sight 6
Action: average of the units sacrificed round up
Spell resistance: average of sacrificed units

What about these?

[Stratego (dev)]

oh. i ment dont use combined stats of the sacrificed orcs.
there is no yet such logic as i remember.

[Alexander82]

No. It is the only one summoned with sacrifices. It was something new.

As far as it is now it is way better to keep your 3 master orc warrior (combined attack of 45) than the dragon (attack 22)

What about:

Cost -
HP 90
Attack 22
Range 1
Speed 5 flying
Sight 6
Action 1
Spell resistance 0%

[Stratego (dev)]

ok but there are advantages too:
- you can sacrifice anything, units that you dont need, goblins and so on.
- you can sacrifice almost dead units! (even with 1 hp)
- by spawning the dragon you have an extra attack possibility on that turn
- dragon can fly but other units not.

[Alexander82]

Yes, but vanishing is not good at all.
The same units that can summon a dragon can also fully heal a unit (why sacrifice a ettin with 1 hp when i can heal him back at full healt?)

[Stratego (dev)]

ok, i can accept vanishing removal but we might change the stats too, and i asked you to suggest the new stats and i presume you wrote below this "What about:".

ok it will be in in next update, with 80hp but i still think it might be op - but lets try.

[Alexander82]

Ok. I think it will be fine (there are stronger units on the orc side), but let's get some feedback from players