Monster's Cave IMPLEMENTED

[Alexander82]

This is a pit, or a lair (just a hole in the ground) what you think?

[Alexander82]

I've seen that right now it can only make ettin and troll. Can you put hamletback and worg riders?

Btw this is the hamletback concept. I think it fits

[Stratego (dev)]

oh. i forgot.

but good idea, one is cheaper on mountains, other is much costy on eg. ground.

ok, i think this rocky image should be the non mountain version that can be built on ground

so the other new image you try should be the the new image - and we might call it "Carved Cave" or something.

also hamletback is ok there, but worg raiders i think not - or why should they?

[Alexander82]

Cause worg are monsters, they might be trained in those caves. Also it would be useful to have some factory to make them.

[Alexander82]

About the 2nd version i think it should be made from different tile pieces to adapt to different mountain tiles. Do you agree?

[Stratego (dev)]

sorry i dont get what you mean - please try rephrase. thanks!

[Alexander82]

I mean that if i draw just the hole that should be placed on top of a mountain tile it will not look good on every different tile

[Stratego (dev)]

Yes. But if you could make a hole and a little "cave bordering" maybe that will fit everywhere like a mine entrance but without wooden logs as door frame.

[Alexander82]

But will it work if the mountain is oriented on opposite side? I need to find a way

[Stratego (dev)]

which is oriented in opposite side? (or what does it mean? )

btw: if we can not make a "terrain extensional" image, we can make a normal cave (as the other picture) but havin a totally different look to easy distinguish.

[Alexander82]

what i was meaning is that some piece of mountains cover only half of their tile. In such a way we will have tiles with their left half without mountain and other tiles with the right half without mountains. So we might need different "holes" to cover different tiles.
I can try to make a different cave anyway

[Alexander82]

Daniel can you edit this one to make it work on all terrains?

[Alexander82]

What about these two?

[Stratego (dev)]

these you posted are very not the same style

also I think i see what you mean by not fitting to everwhere, see here:

[Alexander82]

Yes, i believe that wouldn't look that good. We should probably stay more in the hole concept, a bit more looked from above.

[Alexander82]

What about that?

I tried the old one and i think it would fit better mountains. Tht should be for normal terrain use

[Stratego (dev)]

not really. it is out of "style" yet. let me suggest one.

[Alexander82]

If you give me a piece of mountain that you like i can work on that one

[Stratego (dev)]

i thought of starting with similar to the one i posted 2 posts earlier - a small part from our existing mountain image, ot the implemented "cave" image.

[Alexander82]

Just to make sure:
The one in game right now works only on mountain tiles.
The one i'm going to make is meant for mountain tiles or for normal tiles?

[Stratego (dev)]

for mountain tiles.
(the current cave image in-game would be the "ground" cave version)

[Alexander82]

Ok, so i will start from that little piece

[Alexander82]

Btw, i found out by playing that unit moved on the monster cave don't "enter" the cave but overlap it with their image

[Alexander82]

This is in line with your concept, right?

[Stratego (dev)]

ok, but this was my first idea that we discussed that it does not look good on all mountains so we need something else.

[Alexander82]

I think that we should give up the idea of a 3d look to make it good on all terrains

[Alexander82]

What about this one?

[Stratego (dev)]

getting very good!

only suggestion is
- the cave mouth is too symmetric, suggest making it an amorph outline.
- also the eyes are a bit funny, we need to find other "occupacy" indication.

[Alexander82]

Do you think that it might look better if it was tinier?

[Stratego (dev)]

dunno